Entrevista a la directora de "It Come And It Goes"

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Entrevista a la directora de "It Come And It Goes"

Mensaje  HonestlyOK el Mar Ene 13, 2009 12:51 pm

Hoy didomusic.com publicó la segunda entrevista a los directores del proyecto de videos de Safe Trip Home. En esta ocasión, la entrevistada es Tinge Krishnan que nos cuenta detalles acerca del video que dirigió, It Come And It Goes:


Hi Tinge. How did you get involved with the Safe Trip Home project?
When I heard about it, I jumped at the chance to pitch for something in Thailand. Because although I'm from London, I'm half-Thai, half-Malaysian, so I thought that could work quite nicely. They sent me the track and as soon as I heard it, I thought of Nong Toom, the lady-boy Thai boxer. The lyrics are so her, that movement is ying and yang - vulnerability and strength, inward movement and outward movement.

So that's Nong Toom in the film?
It is, yeah.

How did you get her to be involved?
My mum called her up and asked her.

For those who haven't heard of Nong Toom, can you give us a bit of background?
Well, she was originally a man. And basically she was spotted in her village by a prominent Thai boxing coach, even though she was very shy and quite soft, even as a boy. She already had a kind of sensitive side to her and she said she always felt she was a girl in a boy's body, but she was just phenomenal at boxing and she loved it. They took a bunch of kids from that village and they had rounds of selection and she was left as the kind of chosen one to be trained. And over the years she discovered that really she was more of a woman than a man and bit by bit she started to come out. She started in the changing rooms putting moisturiser on, putting nail varnish on and starting to wear make up. And she was really famous for her boxing style. Like when all the other guys would all be psyching each other out, she'd be really smiley and cute and then just whack the shit out of the other person.

Is she someone you'd been aware of for a long time.
Yeah, she's been on my periphery. She's part of Thai folklore in a way. Everyone's aware of the lady-boy boxer. She's a household name over there. And she was the subject of a film, Beautiful Boxer, too.

Did you have a plan B for the film if she said no?
To be honest I didn't really spend much time thinking what would happen if she said no because that way lies madness! And, luckily, she said yes immediately. She was very excited about it. When I played her the song her eyes went really teary and she said, "That's me, that's me." It was really sweet. She really connected to it. It's a really emotional song and there's an intimacy to it. It's very feminine, with a sense of struggle in it and a sense of liberation that connected to her life. Coming out in a really macho environment is not an easy thing to do. Femininity is quite a soft thing to try to assert - particularly in such a macho environment. So to carve out room for herself she had to have a certain toughness. Her martial arts training is what gave her the strength to withstand all the emotional knocks when making that transition.

Once you had her on board, did you have an idea of your film's plot?
Yeah, I had a rough idea. The brief we were given was to make a kind of documentary-style film. So I thought the most authentic documentary route would be to go in and spend time with the subject; see what her life is, see what floats her boat.

So you just filmed her to see what you got?
Well, we had a meeting with her first and asked what her daily life consisted of, because we needed to have some kind of plan and schedule. So, for example, we knew she likes to go out in the morning, train on the beach, do some jogging, buy crabs with her friends, frolic around playing volleyball and then go and eat crabs at her parents' house and play with the kids.

Is that her real parents in the film?
It is, yeah. It's all her real friends. Her brother's in it and so is her adopted daughter. It really surprised me when she said that she was a mum and that she had a daughter which she'd adopted as a tiny little newborn. I thought that mothering aspect was a very important thing to present.

The film doesn't make it explicitly clear that its subject used to be a man. Was that deliberate?
Well, I knew it was going to be on the internet and the internet is a place where people chat and comment so I thought it would be more fun if half the people who watched it would actually think that she was a woman first. In the end we put in a few clues at the start of the film, like when we're panning across the trophies at the start, there are a few hints to a more masculine identity there. But, ultimately, I thought it would be more fun to tailor it to the kind of interesting creature that the internet is - I hoped the film would be a bit ambiguous so that Nong Toom's identity would emerge organically, through people's comments. I could just imagine people saying things like, "Wow, that's an amazing woman," "That's not a woman, it's a lady boy!', 'Oh really?'.

Someone commenting on the Safe Trip Home site said the film made him feel, "Sexy, because let's face it the girl is gorgeous."
Yeah, and I think that's great. That's the power of if. It can turn things upside down. As a piece it's doing more than just being a piece of work. It's challenging but in a really subtle way, by just showing her and people responding to her as she is.

And, of course, she is beautiful.
She's amazing. I learned a lot from her about eyebrows and hair! All us girls felt really masculine around her. She is very beautiful. I think over time she's just got more and more feminine as she settles into her new body. It's become the body of a woman.

But she's still involved in boxing?
She's not a professional boxer any more, but she's still involved in training. She wants to set up a training camp to train kids who have been on drugs or are from really poor backgrounds. But she did continue to box immediately after her operation. Some places would say you must box women, whilst others said it was alright to still box men. She said it was really interesting because she found it easier to box men than women. She said she thought women had a kind of strength that comes from a place that wasn't physical. Even when she had the body of a woman, she was still beating men. Because she had experience of being a man she believed she could beat men, but she wasn't using her physical strength to beat them. There was something else. I studied Thai Chi and there's a kind of Chi-like element that resonated with her and we tried to present that in the film; that very feminine energy.

It sounds like it was a fascinating project to work on.
It was brilliant, I loved it so much. It was a really hard shoot physically but we could see in the monitors that we were getting some really great stuff.

Was this quite an unusual project for you?
Yeah, it was. It was interesting trying to find the biting point in the edit between editing for the music and editing in a more straight documentary way. It was a very interesting process. It was fun to marry slo-mo and beauty with gritty documentary. A kind of poetry and documentary.

And you're pleased with the result?
Yeah, I am. I love it. I think the track and the images work really well together.

Has Nong Toom seen it?
Yeah, we had a screening in Thailand and she loves it. She's really happy with it. But then she was already a big Dido fan!

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Re: Entrevista a la directora de "It Come And It Goes"

Mensaje  fer-1987 el Miér Ene 14, 2009 9:06 am

mucho q leeer...pero seguro q es muy interesante!! Rolling Eyes

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